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By Parker(GAFC)11/9 07:33Wed Sep 11 07:33:42 2019

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I was at the England game last night and in amongst the the Kosovan section there were loads of Albania flags and shirts. I noticed Albania played Iceland last night so what’s going on? What’s the politics or the reasoning?

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By BudaShot (NottShot)12/9 06:57Thu Sep 12 06:57:07 2019In response to FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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In slightly detracted news... The Czech's are planning to withdraw their recognition of KosMet.

Kosovo is the Serb holy land, but saw a large demographic change meaning a large proportion of ethnic Albanians flood into the country. The North of the country still remains predominantly ethnic Serbs.

Find a random town in KosMet and look at the demographic switch over the years. Fascinating stuff.

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By UkrainianPhil (YCFC)11/9 11:33Wed Sep 11 11:33:09 2019In response to FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Kosovo is an ethnic Albanian area of Serbia.

In the last round of qualifiers they had to play in Shkoder in Albania as their stadium wasn't finished.

The old town of Skopje and that side of the river is almost exclusively Albanian. I was there when Serbia beat Albania and the Macedonians were driving over the bridge beeping their horns to take the piss.

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By Greek Card12/9 07:06Thu Sep 12 07:06:05 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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You mean the Bulgarians.

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By BudaShot (NottShot)12/9 06:59Thu Sep 12 06:59:28 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Similar in Montenegro along the border... Plus that weird part of Italy that speaks ancient Albanian.

Montenegro is another country that's demographic make up is fascinating.

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By UkrainianPhil (YCFC)12/9 10:40Thu Sep 12 10:40:49 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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It was weird to see every bar in the old town packed for the Albania game, with thousands on the streets then, when I rocked up at the gigantic Philip II of Macedon Stadium when Macedonia played, there was no-one there.

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By BudaShot (NottShot)12/9 10:46Thu Sep 12 10:46:09 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Just have to look at Macedonian politics, to realise how messed up that ethnic conflict is.

I maintain my belief that if it's to kick off in the FYR again, it will be between Albanians and Macedonians. Not Republika Srpska or Kosovo.

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By skippy11/9 07:54Wed Sep 11 07:54:14 2019In response to FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Kosovo was the ethnically Albanian area of the former Yugoslavia, Albania supported their independence from the newly formed Serbia.

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By Parker(GAFC)11/9 09:30Wed Sep 11 09:30:22 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Ah sort of makes sense so what I replied to Descartes below about an Irish comparison don’t really apply.

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By Dougie MacDougall11/9 09:34Wed Sep 11 09:34:11 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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The equivalent comparison with Ireland would be that in 1922, the whole island of Ireland had split from the UK and that Northern Ireland was an autonomous part of the Republic. NI then declares independence and while an independent country, the majority being "British" are expressing that identity.

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By Greek Card11/9 09:05Wed Sep 11 09:05:33 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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It was one Albanian part along with part of 'North Macedonia'

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By DesCartes11/9 07:52Wed Sep 11 07:52:54 2019In response to FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Wiki:

'There are 1.6 million Albanians living in Kosovo - officially 92.93% of Kosovo's entire population - and Albanian is an official language of Kosovo. Likewise, the peoples of the two countries share common traditions and folklore'.

Bear in mind also that Kosovo remains a partially recognised state and disputed territory.

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By Parker(GAFC)11/9 09:27Wed Sep 11 09:27:35 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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I can understand there are a lot of ethnic Albanians living in Kosovo but surely they would watch Albania and consider themselves Albanian if they were passionate enough to take the Albanian flag to a Kosovo game?
Might be over simplified but would people in the early days of Northern Ireland gone to support them but waving the Republics tricolour?

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By a krinkly11/9 09:43Wed Sep 11 09:43:09 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Kosovo was a Serbian province and the Serbs used to be the majority population, that gradually changed until Albanians as has been stated became overwhelmingly the majority. During the Yugoslavia break up Kosovo pushed to break away from Serbia who resisted because historically it had been theirs. So it's not really surprising Kosovans consider themselves to be closely allied to Albania.

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By Dougie MacDougall11/9 09:30Wed Sep 11 09:30:53 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Your analogy stacks up but you've got it the wrong way around, it would be the same as NI fans flying Union Jacks, which of course they do in great number.

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By Baldman (Baldman)11/9 09:38Wed Sep 11 09:38:00 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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But NI is part of the U.K.

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By skippy11/9 15:25Wed Sep 11 15:25:20 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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And if the UK had a football team it would make sense to wave the Union flag.
However the Norns are confused and the English are not the brightest so we see Union flags.

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By Dougie MacDougall11/9 09:56Wed Sep 11 09:56:36 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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For how much longer though.

https://twitter.com/lordashcroft/status/1171694711700119557?s=21

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By Baldman (Baldman)11/9 10:26Wed Sep 11 10:26:00 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Great. Let’s hold a referendum

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By Dougie MacDougall11/9 10:41Wed Sep 11 10:41:25 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Have it on the same day as the next Scottish Indy Ref. Divide and conquer.

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By Parker(GAFC)11/9 09:32Wed Sep 11 09:32:44 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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Ah I see, thank you 👍

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By Joe Hawkins11/9 09:44Wed Sep 11 09:44:42 2019In response to Re: FAO Conf Forum European ExpertsTop of thread

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leave means leave

I haven’t got a clue.

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