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Leicester

By Mr S (Mr Staffordshire)29/6 09:35Mon Jun 29 09:35:28 2020

Views: 1361

To stay in lockdown for extra 2 weeks meaning no pubs, restaurants etc can reopen in that duration after huge spikes in the city.

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Scotland infecting England latest

By cufc infinity (cufc_infinity)3/7 14:19Fri Jul 3 14:19:19 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 219

The cluster just across the border was apparently some managers at a seafood factory in Annan getting together for a shindig and they all got it. One of their wives works at the Cumberland Infirmary at Carlisle and has probably spread it about*

*according to some bloke on the carlisle messageboard

CLOSE THE BORDER

Edited by cufc_infinity at 14:19:30 on 3rd July 2020

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Re: Scotland infecting England latest

By Dave (Barra) (David (Barrovia))3/7 14:25Fri Jul 3 14:25:59 2020In response to Scotland infecting England latestTop of thread

Views: 200

My Carlisle-ish mate told me that a nurse and a bbq were involved.

Small town rumour mills > Expensive test and trace systems

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Re: Scotland infecting England latest

By Mr S (Mr Staffordshire)3/7 14:22Fri Jul 3 14:22:46 2020In response to Scotland infecting England latestTop of thread

Views: 196

FFS

Jocks need to stop going all Braveheart on us!

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Pubs outside Leicester no go zone

By Mr S (Mr Staffordshire)3/7 11:57Fri Jul 3 11:57:59 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 243

Pubs that are just outside no go zone will ask customers which postcode they live in and if they find out it’s in no go zone then they will be not allowed in.

They can face fines up to £100 if they found in breach of rules.

I feel sorry for people of Leicester who were eager to see the pubs, restaurants and barbers reopen tomorrow, only to find out they have to wait for another 2 weeks..

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Re: Pubs outside Leicester no go zone

By Ian Chesterton3/7 13:08Fri Jul 3 13:08:41 2020In response to Pubs outside Leicester no go zoneTop of thread

Views: 212

Some pubs just outside the exclusion zone have chosen not to re-open whilst the localised lockdown is on.

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Re: Leicester

By Baldman30/6 17:18Tue Jun 30 17:18:02 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 593

This is quite interesting on why it doesn't seem like Leicester is such a big deal if you look at official numbers....

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Re: Leicester

By DesCartes30/6 18:33Tue Jun 30 18:33:22 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 511

World-beating

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Re: Leicester

By JonnyJ30/6 17:21Tue Jun 30 17:21:18 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 570

Because I'm too lazy to look it up, what's the difference between pillar 1 and pillar 2 cases?

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Re: Leicester

By DesCartes30/6 18:17Tue Jun 30 18:17:51 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 519

'Public Health England publishes a weekly breakdown of the two categories: tests from hospitals, known as pillar 1, and from commercial labs that process at-home and drive-through tests, known as pillar 2.'

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Re: Leicester

By JonnyJ30/6 19:20Tue Jun 30 19:20:33 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 483

Cheers. So they've only counted hospital tests.

It's just utterly bizarre, why do that? Surely they want people to adhere to the rules, so why produce figures which makes it look like they're overreacting? It's lieing for lieing sake. Just pointless and self defeating. Where's the gain for them?

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Re: Leicester

By Rob230/6 20:10Tue Jun 30 20:10:52 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 448

Is it just at the lower grain (local authority etc) where they are just using hospital data or any time they give positive test numbers. If the later that's a scandal, people are making their own call on risk based on the number of active cases. We need the ONS, NAO, Statistics Authority to all come out together and say this is all bollocks

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Re: Leicester

By DesCartes30/6 20:32Tue Jun 30 20:32:45 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 464

The fundamental problem here is that the numbers of positive cases from Pillar 1 testing (hospitals) and Pillar 2 testing ('at home' and community testing) is combined, but only reported, at UK level.

It was the combined 'total to date' and 'daily' case numbers that were presented at the now defunct daily briefings.

However, the number reported at the level of each of the 4 nations and below that - local authority - does not include the Pillar 2 numbers. The discrepancy can be seen here (see difference between 'Total number of lab-confirmed UK cases' and the totals for the 4 nations in the table below):

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

The Pillar 2 data is produced from that provided by commercial laboratories which include those operated by Serco and Sitel. As a consequence of the centralised nature of the way testing is being managed, local Pillar 2 data is shared quickly with the relevant local health bodies but not with the local authorities, MPs and the public.

Consequently, there is a delay in them knowing the true figures for positive cases in their areas, which prevents them from responding in a timely manner. And, of late, 90% of the positive cases in Leicester have been identified in Pillar 2 testing

This is the key Tweet in that JB-M thread:



So this is fundamental flaw in the wider story of Covid-19 testing, tracking and tracing in the UK, which represents another Government scandal in its own right.

See also:

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/06/29/chris-ham-the-government-should-give-local-leaders-control-over-nhs-test-and-trace/

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Confirmed

By The Very Revd. Roy Summersby KC29/6 22:04Mon Jun 29 22:04:57 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

Views: 1005

So - schools are places of transmission

No doubt some pissed up wanker will torch a mosque on Saturday

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Re: Confirmed

By Shanghai30/6 09:14Tue Jun 30 09:14:52 2020In response to ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 804

The outbreak is in Evington, where i lived when at uni. It is very much in the heart of the Asian community, on the news the councillor said it was partly due to locals not understanding the language so arent following advice, which would make sense as all the flyers i used to get when I lived there were in often all accompanied by Urdu translations.

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Re: Confirmed

By Massive Bereavement30/6 13:26Tue Jun 30 13:26:15 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 629

I heard on the radio the language barrier excuse being played a good 3 months ago. People understand English when they want to.

Roll eyes emoji.

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Re: Confirmed

By Shanghai30/6 13:29Tue Jun 30 13:29:58 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 614

Of course, but they can't say that can they due to The EU red tape, its political correctness gone mad!!!111!!

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 09:32Tue Jun 30 09:32:29 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 757

Bloke on LBC last night (I know, I know), is from Stoke and said they'd never really closed any shops etc.

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Re: Confirmed

By Shanghai30/6 09:36Tue Jun 30 09:36:06 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 754

The intergenerational living as well. My next-door neighbour (who was my landlord) had a 7 bed house with 10 people living it in, spanning across about 4 generations. As you say, i doubt many of the hard-nosed fruit shop owners etc would have paid much notice to some of the shop/mosque lockdowns etc as well. Sounds like a potent cocktail.

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 09:46Tue Jun 30 09:46:38 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 736

Whatever culture/area has bigger families in lower echelons is going to suffer more.
If my family play a bit loose with the rules it’s just the five of us in three households, two of which are pretty much isolated and the third WFH.
If you have a big south Asian family with all the kids ‘just quickly popping in’, them having quite a few kids, and a fair proportion of them all working in key worker/retail jobs then the risk is far higher.

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Re: Confirmed

By tara (ProgressiveTara)29/6 22:06Mon Jun 29 22:06:54 2020In response to ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 1007

Good. Great to see that the track and trace and testing schemes identify this quickly so it can be targeted correctly.

Somehow descartes will tell us this is shit

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes1/7 08:07Wed Jul 1 08:07:26 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 385

That post really did not age well...

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Re: Confirmed

By tara (ProgressiveTara)1/7 15:38Wed Jul 1 15:38:02 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 352

Did it not?

In summary, they've been finding the cases, acting on it, but not telling people that it doesn't matter to. I really don't see the problem here.

Why is the whole world not happy unless they see themselves in the picture and they haven't told them, personally, what's going on in something that doesn't affect them one bit?

Edited by ProgressiveTara at 15:39:05 on 1st July 2020

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes1/7 16:33Wed Jul 1 16:33:20 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 335

Wrong.

The local authorities were not aware of the Pillar 2 cases - representing 90% of the recent cases in Leicester - until 10 days after they were reported from the commercial laboratories to PHE England.

Until then, they thought there were just 90 cases.

http://www.theconferenceforum.co.uk/article/1452426

See also - particularly the 'Analysis' bit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53244626

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Re: Confirmed

By tara (ProgressiveTara)2/7 10:15Thu Jul 2 10:15:27 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 303

So the local authorities get to decide whether they are locked down or not?

I'm still reading this as the main people with the power decide what's happening and act on it, and have all the figures. They haven't told twitter though, that I agree with.

Edited by ProgressiveTara at 10:16:30 on 2nd July 2020

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 08:24Tue Jun 30 08:24:48 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 866

'Somehow descartes will tell us this is shit'

I will leave last night's Panorama to do that job for me. Did you see it?

It was pretty damning. 25,000 contract tracers have, to date, followed up on 15,812 contacts. That's a little more than 0.6 people each. A number of tracers have sat at their desks for a month, refreshing their screens and finding nothing.

The vast majority of all contacts were initiated by NHS specialists following processes which were already in place (i.e. Pre 28th May).

Edited by DesCartes at 08:33:19 on 30th June 2020

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 08:33Tue Jun 30 08:33:57 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 853

Wow. Sounds like the processes we had in place pre 28th May were pretty good then. Still, nice to have this backstop.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 08:40Tue Jun 30 08:40:45 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 833

Oh dear. Wrong conclusion.

Read this article. And don't 'tl;dr' it; it's not 20 pages long, like most that you link to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53220180

'At the start of the coronavirus outbreak, a report written by Public Health England for the government's SAGE group of advisers called for a ten-fold increase in contact tracing capacity.'

What's in place is inadequate.

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Re: Confirmed

By CardinalCannon30/6 09:17Tue Jun 30 09:17:17 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 793

Morning Des,

Was wondering if you'd had chance to conclude your thoughts on the veracity of the tweets from @archer_rs from last night?
You seemed to tail off the topic suddenly.

Allow me to link to it just in case you missed it

http://www.theconferenceforum.co.uk/article/1452094

Have a great day!

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 09:33Tue Jun 30 09:33:32 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 757

Specifically which part of this were you struggling with?

http://www.theconferenceforum.co.uk/article/1452045

I.e. I'd already answered Baldie's last question.

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Re: Confirmed

By CardinalCannon30/6 09:46Tue Jun 30 09:46:42 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 735

No you hadn't.

You diverted the subject as you always do.

A simple yes or no would have sufficed but instead you did your policitician act and talked around a subject knowing that you'd been found out but too pussy to admit it

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 09:52Tue Jun 30 09:52:52 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 733

Ok. I personally believe it. Satisfied now?

Edited by DesCartes at 09:53:07 on 30th June 2020

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Re: Confirmed

By CardinalCannon30/6 10:02Tue Jun 30 10:02:06 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 727

Hallelujah!

You're wrong obviously (imvho) but nice to see you actually nail your colours to the mast for once.

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 10:14Tue Jun 30 10:14:59 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 714

Don’t forget that Des thinks people only voted for Brexit because of the ‘lies’ he keeps quoting, and that all Brexiteers believed them all literally and had no understanding that there would be compromises.
He also can’t see the difference between choosing your compromises and having them imposed.

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Re: Confirmed

By Sweepy30/6 17:40Tue Jun 30 17:40:29 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 531

"He also can’t see the difference between choosing your compromises and having them imposed"

UK had no power/influence/agency as a member state?

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 17:48Tue Jun 30 17:48:06 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 516

That is different from choice

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 00:10Fri Jul 3 00:10:32 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 270

We negotiated and made compromises. We chose our compromises.

We were very powerful at the centre of Europe.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2015/11/16/uk-influence-in-europe-series-is-the-uk-at-the-top-table-in-eu-negotiations/

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman3/7 06:19Fri Jul 3 06:19:37 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 258

Yeah but

https://www.theguardian.com/world/datablog/2015/nov/02/is-uk-winner-or-loser-european-council

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 09:30Fri Jul 3 09:30:20 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 231

We lost 13% of votes in 2009 to 2015 and 3% in 2004 to 2009. Thus we were on the side of the winning vote 87% and 97% of the time. Nice counter argument.

It is noticeable that we started losing votes when your Tories came to power.

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Re: Confirmed

By JonnyJ3/7 20:30Fri Jul 3 20:30:40 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 97

I saw a twitter thread ages back that listed the votes we lost, quite a few were to do with closing off tax loopholes for individuals and big corporations, which would tally with why we started "losing" more when the Tories came into power.

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman3/7 09:56Fri Jul 3 09:56:28 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 235

The most vote losingest country.

They weren't my Tories. My Tories came in last year.

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Re: Confirmed

By Uptheshots3/7 17:38Fri Jul 3 17:38:13 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 147

Who did you vote for before?

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman3/7 17:39Fri Jul 3 17:39:21 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 156

Labour

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Re: Confirmed

By Lord M Ox (Marked Ox)3/7 19:39Fri Jul 3 19:39:45 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 122

I reckon you were a UKipper.

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 14:24Fri Jul 3 14:24:43 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 171

Well if I got the worst result in a test at 87%, I'd live with that.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 10:09Tue Jun 30 10:09:38 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 716

Why am I obviously wrong? There are a lot of very gullible Brexiteers out there and this slow, protracted 'dropping of the penny' is something many will experience.

And the saga continues to develop today...

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 10:18Tue Jun 30 10:18:27 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 714

There are a lot of very gullible Brexiteers out there

Ha ha this is priceless.

Do you also believe that his daughter was told to F off back to France on Saturday?

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 10:27Tue Jun 30 10:27:44 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 717

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/brexit-voting-pats-spain-wake-future-change-200305140716114.html

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 00:16Fri Jul 3 00:16:22 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 255

It makes my blood boil that people who don't live here voted us out and are now applying for residency, as they realise the lies they believed are not true. They voted us out but then decided to keep their nice EU rights and benefits.

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 10:34Tue Jun 30 10:34:14 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 700

I had a quick scan of that article, but couldn't find an answer to my question there.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 10:38Tue Jun 30 10:38:17 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 707

Yes, I believe it. There have been plenty of instances of this:

https://www.thelocal.fr/20161026/french-expats-in-uk-are-suffering-from-post-brexit-abuse

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Re: Confirmed

By CardinalCannon30/6 11:17Tue Jun 30 11:17:42 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 675

Well done on dredging out an article from 4 years ago to help try to support the fact that you've been hoodwinked by a spoof Twitter account and that nobody should really be laughing at you

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 11:17Tue Jun 30 11:17:11 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 682

That poor bloke. Two Brexit related incidents in a week. And the second one seemingly a comedic series that keeps on giving.

You couldn’t make it up.

Could you?

In other news it seems that they are messing with the English language again and censoring our great books of reference.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 13:07Tue Jun 30 13:07:43 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 646

Says the man who believes a Michael Gove speech to be`cathartic' and clings to a belief that Brexit will, in some way, benefit this country.

Edited by DesCartes at 13:08:03 on 30th June 2020

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 13:18Tue Jun 30 13:18:01 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 626

LOL

I'm sorry we had to stage an intervention, but you really can't keep believing everything you read on Twitter. You'll get yourself into all sorts of bother.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 14:22Tue Jun 30 14:22:16 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 577

69K Likes for his original Tweet and rising.

Even for those who don't believe the story, it's an entertaining read.

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 15:01Tue Jun 30 15:01:43 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 576

Obviously the best way to persuade us he isn’t lying is a tweet of the liar saying he isn’t lying. Gold standard proof.

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 00:19Fri Jul 3 00:19:57 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 250

You will still perpetuate a lie even when it has been shown to be a lie. That is worse.

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Re: Confirmed

By DesCartes30/6 15:13Tue Jun 30 15:13:41 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 553

Any vacancies in this government's Cabinet currently?

If you're right, this makes him an ideal fit / candidate.

Tho' I doubt whether he is aligned politically...

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Re: Confirmed

By CardinalCannon30/6 10:21Tue Jun 30 10:21:37 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 698

He (@archer_rs) said it was true, why would it not be true?

Why would he make up something for comic effect? That might make people believe something that wasn't actually true which would be a very nasty and mean trick to play.

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Re: Confirmed

By Shanghai30/6 10:17Tue Jun 30 10:17:12 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 711

There are a lot of very gullible Brexiteers out there and this slow, protracted 'dropping of the penny' is something many will experience.

I hate to break it to you Des, but for 90% of the population, they voted in 2016 and haven't given it a seconds thought since. Stop thinking twitter is real life.

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Re: Confirmed

By NWS3/7 00:24Fri Jul 3 00:24:57 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 258

The trouble is that just like you claimed remainers didn't understand why people in Boston etc voted brexit (I was strangely told that I didn't get it but when I finally got this hallowed explanation of what it was I was missing it was pretty much what I had originally offered up as an explanation) there are many who don't seem to get why people with influence and power wanted brexit. I think that is the penny-drop moments, Des refers to. He also used the word 'will'. For many the penny-drop has still to arrive. It maybe never will because they will be convinced that something else has caused their latest downfall.

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 09:54Tue Jun 30 09:54:36 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 707

CWI

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Re: Confirmed

By Shanghai30/6 09:20Tue Jun 30 09:20:27 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 755

ooohhhh, CC is Descarting Descartes!!111111111!11111!1!!!

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 08:53Tue Jun 30 08:53:40 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 807

What do you think of this report that seems to suggest no evidence that lockdown or testing is effective?

http://www.theconferenceforum.co.uk/article/1452092

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Re: Confirmed

By Uptheshots30/6 09:06Tue Jun 30 09:06:17 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 784

Testing and tracing in early March would have been very helpful

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Re: Confirmed

By Baldman30/6 09:31Tue Jun 30 09:31:27 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 735

Well, I think so. But that research paper suggest otherwise

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Re: Confirmed

By tara (ProgressiveTara)30/6 08:52Tue Jun 30 08:52:15 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 796

The government says the system has contacted 114,000 people who may have been exposed to the virus.

But the vast majority of these were found by existing public health teams.

An investigation by BBC Panorama has discovered that 98,000 of the contacts were traced by only 870 public health officials.

The local officials work for Public Health England and are experts in contact tracing. They are responsible for managing more complex cases, like outbreaks in schools and care homes, which often reveal larger numbers of contacts.


So, what we already had was pretty shit hot, and this is an extra that mops up the stuff that the experts don't/can't do.

Seems pretty decent to me.

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Re: Confirmed

By Meerkat30/6 08:51Tue Jun 30 08:51:13 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

Views: 797

How is it inadequate? The article is very vague - you could draw the conclusion that capacity is above that needed, which would be a success.

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Re: Confirmed

By tara (ProgressiveTara)30/6 08:58Tue Jun 30 08:58:19 2020In response to Re: ConfirmedTop of thread

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It's certainly what I've got from it.

117000 contacts traced, regardless how we did it

In the first 3 weeks we've had roughly 40,000 positive cases

So we've contacted 3 contacts per positive case. Seems about right to me Des. Happy for you to bark at the moon a bit more though if you like.

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Re: Leicester

By Sicknote29/6 10:00Mon Jun 29 10:00:56 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

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So the people of Leicester go further afield to get a drink and spread it outside of their little area, clever.

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Re: Leicester

By tara (ProgressiveTara)29/6 10:11Mon Jun 29 10:11:41 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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From my spies in the area, the area for which the spike is prevalent - well how do I put this.

You won't be finding them in any pubs, but I wouldn't be opening places of worship anytime soon.

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Re: Leicester

By Money Shot29/6 10:16Mon Jun 29 10:16:11 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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My first thought was it' has a high percentage of Asian/Muslim people. Non drinkers, but also in the high risk BME grouping.

Edited by Money Shot at 10:51:16 on 29th June 2020

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Re: Leicester

By tara (ProgressiveTara)29/6 10:25Mon Jun 29 10:25:51 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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Innnnnnnnnnn one.

Also the least likely to have been following social distancing between households. From the old "mates mate is a A&E specialist yadda yadda yadda" its hit a couple of large Pakistani populations over there hard hence the spike. Numerous generations in one house, people treating families as households and hence 700 cases or so out of the national 10ish over the last two weeks.

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Re: Leicester

By Dave (Barra) (David (Barrovia))29/6 10:05Mon Jun 29 10:05:42 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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Aye, I was wondering how it was going to be enforced. Simpsons-style dome perhaps?

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Re: Leicester

By Sicknote29/6 10:10Mon Jun 29 10:10:00 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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Can that be permanently installed over the entire midlands?

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Re: Leicester

By Bork29/6 12:51Mon Jun 29 12:51:11 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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We should start a crowd funding campaign.

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Re: Leicester

By Mr S (Mr Staffordshire)29/6 11:51Mon Jun 29 11:51:23 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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No.

Next.

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Re: Leicester

By KD198129/6 09:55Mon Jun 29 09:55:07 2020In response to LeicesterTop of thread

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Sir Peter said he had received an email from the government overnight and "it seems they're suggesting we continue the present level of restriction for a further two weeks beyond 4 July".

"That's very different from the dramatic 'lockdown in Leicester' that was being briefed over the weekend."

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Re: Leicester

By Rob229/6 11:54Mon Jun 29 11:54:20 2020In response to Re: LeicesterTop of thread

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So no camping holidays in Leicester

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